Lady Lee said, "Let's face it the only rights they lay claim to are their own."
Absolutely correct. And they will fight tooth and nail for them, all while stepping on those of their followers and former followers.
iam writting to ask how do the wts tracks ex-jw's members who have moved from place to place or moved to out of state locations?
in tracking them, is not this a violation of individual right to privacy?
i know of an individual who have been tracked after he moved out of state after he was severally 'persecuted' for deciding to cut of himself off from the congregation only to find wts groups tracking him once again to his new location.
Lady Lee said, "Let's face it the only rights they lay claim to are their own."
Absolutely correct. And they will fight tooth and nail for them, all while stepping on those of their followers and former followers.
http://pewforum.org/docs/?docid=392.
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Maybe that 8% are some of the ones that are stuck in for family reasons, etc. but no longer believe.
well, it's been 11 months since the whole thing started and i am ecstatic that she will finally be coming home.. .
it's somewhere between 2 weeks to a month before she comes home.. .
so first thing we need some stuff..... .
Best wishes for you and your wife.
since there appears to be no eye=witness testimoney of sin or defect within the governing body of the wbts, could we be dealing with superhumans such as the bible's nephalim?
would this not explain the powerful control this org seems to weild over common folks?.
anyone care to comment?.
I think the control the WT has over its members comes from their use of mind control techniques and other psychological manipulation.
it's amazing how the watchtower society uses "freedom of religion" as a legal protection to violate the religious freedoms of others.
the punishment for leaving their religion is so severe that many people stay to avoid being cut off from their family and friends.
these people don't really have freedom of religion.. the courts are generally reluctant to interfere in the internal dealings of a church (they might make an exception in extreme cases like child abuse) so the watchtower society has a lot of freedom to use intimidation and the threat of breaking family ties to enforce its own will.
Very interesting topic DT. I, also, have been thinking of the irony of an organization who complains, rightly so in many instances, about being denied freedom of religion, and then denies their followers the same.
Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights adopted by the UN says, "Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance."
Article 19 says, "Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers."
Part 2 of article 20 says, "No one may be compelled to belong to an organization."
It is clear to me that the WT violates these principles, therefore violating the human rights of their followers. They, like other cults, use manipulation and mind control techniques to influence their followers, and do so in a deceptive manner. This is a fundamental violation of the above stated rights.
I hope that one day there will be a way to prevent them from doing this.
I'm no expert, but I've heard of it. It's a type of yoga. While most yoga practiced in the US is just for exercise, Kundalini is a spiritual practice. It is Hindu, but I have heard of people from other religious traditions benefiting from it. I have never done it myself.
first of all, if anyone is offended by the photos, then i will ask this topic to be removed.
i am posting the photos because i get sad sometimes about people being forgotten who tried so hard, even though they were wrong.
the cemetery is pretty easy to find, if you have any interest in finding it.
This reminds me of a recent thread where someone said Bethelites have to sign a form allowing the WT to dispose of their bodies if they die while in Bethel service. Why is that? Wouldn't they just send the body home to the person's family, like they do in the military?
greetings all:.
i just want to say howdy and thank you .
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Welcome to the board and thanks for sharing your story. Keep us posted as things progress.
2009 keep on the watch district conventionfriday - prove yourselves ready mt 24:44. am.
chairman's address.
conventions help us to remain watchful.
Thanks for the info Garlic. And welcome to the board!
can we hope for brighter skies when all seems to point the other way?
not so bubblie today.. kit.
I think it depends on what viewpoint you are looking at it from.
Are you talking about your personal life, or life for humanity as a whole?
I think that the overall trend for humanity is positive. Sure, things go up and down in the short term. But look how far we have come over history. Seeing the progress of human rights over the centuries gives me hope. An example is the barbaric practices of slavery and torture, which are now widely condemned in the world. Do they still go on sometimes? Yes, but they are no longer acceptable and there can be legal consequences for engaging in that behavior. In the past, people just accepted that life was that way and nothing could be done about it.
I think as ex-JWs we can take the same view for our personal lives. We have managed to see beyond the limitations of the WT. If we can find our way out of a mind control cult, we certainly can create a worthwhile and meaningful life for ourselves, despite any temporary setbacks we might face. This is something we can all be proud of.
I think the long term prognosis for humanity is good. The same is true for us individually if we continue thinking freely, learning and growing as humans.
Best wishes to you.